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  "True Grit" remake. Review

  by Gregor in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  i really love a good western.

  the remake of true grit by the coen brothers (fargo, o' brother where art thou?, etc.

  ) was a pleasant surprise.

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  "The Unforgiven" and the "Lonesome Dove" series are among my favorites. The highly-rated "Deadwood" series to me had a lot of gratuitous profanity, and a strange stilted form of English used by several characters that I found strange and unlikely to be an accurate reflection of the language of the time.
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  WTBTS Elder & Ministerial Servant Problems

  by JW GoneBad in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i attended a recent ministerial servant k m school on the east coast and the main school instructor mentioned among other things (part entitled: 'objective of the km school course') that the total number of ministerial servants is seriously less than it should be.

  in times past the ratio of m ss to elders was much more than it is today.. in the u.s. apparently the total number of elders is 88,500+ as opposed to m ss 65,000. the numbers show & numbers don't lie: the society is running out of spiritual men.

  the instructor stated that this is a new downward trend that has (in so many words) the society worried.. the next speaker (part entitled: 'why we must be spiritual men') added that in his years as a traveling servant the pool of m ss has always been much, much larger than it is today.

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  "wow,,with those numbers, elders average about 7 per cong. M.S, average 5 per cong ...." what's so dire about that situation? In a cgregation of 100/120 dubbies, how many goons do they need to keep people in line?
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  Christmas visit from the elders

  by MrFreeze in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  yes the elders made another stop to continue to try to get me back to the meetings.

  my main argument with them has been the incorrect dates.

  607, 1914. they said i need to stop focusing on dates.

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  Looks like these elders wanted to set a good example by showing up for field service on Christmas morning and then chickened out by going to your place instead of knocking on strangers' doors..... The elders who were coerced into going to elders' school on holiday weekends are really getting what they deserve.
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  Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 12-26-10 WT Study (MEETINGS)

  by blondie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  3. how important are christian meetings?.

  when more give comments,.

  in making christian meetings upbuilding.*.

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  Your comments about the verbosity of those who conduct these Q and A sessions are very apt. Most of them around here just love the sound of their own voices.
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  District Convention speaker recommendations 2011

  by billyboy in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  every year the wtbts asks a few select top elders / cos to "rate" the brothers in their circuit to see if they qualify to give talks on district conventions.

  it would seem that the society are concerned that some brothers are being a bit faddy in shaving their heads.

  extract:.

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  Re: hair: What is too long and what is too short? Idiots.
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  Another Bad Witness - Elder School on Christmas Day?

  by LostGeneration in

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  2. friends

  had a brief conversation with by jw father a few days ago, unfortunately still an uber witness and as a cboe he has nothing else in his life.. he brought out that he was getting ready for the elders school.

  not sure if he was bragging or wanted sympathy for having to go.

  lol.. i didn't press him on the details, though i wanted to ask if they would be covering all 7 chapters in the new manual on how to df people.

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  Yet one more reason for an elder to opt out and resign, to reclaim any semblance of a normal life.
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  At Bethel it was at times ordered that you MISS the meetings due to a hot job

  by life is to short in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the poster ex dub ms reminded me of something i had forgotten.

  at bethel especially in construction if there was a hot job going on or a deadline you missed meetings peroid!

  no questions asked.. now if a rank and file husband who was working a low wage job to support his family or a single mom had to miss meetings due to a hot job at work what would happen to them?.

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  I was assigned to work at the Walkill construction project in its earliest phases, and I can confirm that meeting attendance was completely off the agenda. We who came up from Bethel never bothered to take along suits, ties, etc. It was wall-to-wall work, sun-to-sun, seven days a week, unless you were smart enough to catch a ride on the Bethel truck back to Brooklyn Saturday. I remembder how Circuit Overseer Wesley Benner, an accomplished carpenter, and the guy who years later DF'd Ray Franz, was ridiculed in the locker room when he asked for time off to go in service, or to attend a meeting.
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  RF and GG

  by Farkel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  rf and gg.

  the parallels between raymond franz and galileo galilei are remarkable and we can learn from them and their religious masters.. in the case of galileo and the catholic church, the issue was not what the church wanted people to believe it was: "who owns the truth about the heavens?".

  in the case of raymond franz and the watchtower printing corporation, the issue was not what the corporation wanted people to believe it was: "who owns the truth about shunning", and "who owns the truth about what the bible really teaches?".

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  The interesting thing about Galileo is that he remained a devout Catholic despite his discoveries and subsequent treatment by the church. He was content to state the facts and let it lie there, convinced that the truth would one day prevail and in some way become reconciled with faith. His lilegitimate daughter, Maria Celeste, was a nun and maintained a fascinating -- and very moving -- correspondence with her father through it all, eventually sharing a grave with her father in the Basilica di Santa Croce, Florence. I highly recommend the book "Galileo's Daughter" to any interested in the man and his travails.
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  New Light on conducting meetings for Field Service

  by Mad Sweeney in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  according to the governing body letters blogspot, the february 2011 km establishes a prohibition on reading the daily text at meetings for field service.. no further details are given.

  anyone have theirs and can post a scan or a summary?.

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  Try as they might to extract more hours of service, the same number of dubbies will foot-drag, coffee-break and drag their way through field serve-us for as much, if not more time wasted, as ever.
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  The stupid current Governing Body

  by possible-san in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  in my forum, an active japanese jw (my friend) taught me what he studied in the meeting recently.. that is the meeting on sunday (12/19) a few days ago.. in the material they studied on that day, it is written like this.. "the greek word translated honor in the bible conveys the sense of esteem, value, preciousness.

  (luke 14:10).

  yes, those we honor are precious, valuable to us.".

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  It appears that in the WT just studied, there's no mention of the actual Greek word. The error, then, is in the 1992 WT, not the 10/15/2010 issue.